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Re: The Feds concede vaccine-autism case in court
Thu, April 3, 2008 - 3:19 PMthank you for this link!!! -
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Re: The Feds concede vaccine-autism case in court
Mon, April 7, 2008 - 11:06 AMwow, that's an interesting well written article. I am one who doesn't like the link "vaccincines cause autism," because there is more going on biologically than a one-to-one cause and effect. AS this articles point out. So it is great to hear how toxins do affect some populations, and armed with that info, and having it more exposed, I am hopeful to see what we can do to eliminate toxins.
Which is different than saying to eliminate vacccines, because I don't believe we need to or should. But anyway, I am hopeful that this raises awareness and will generate a greater urgency for better screening and detection so that people with certain risks can take better precautions, so that alternative care is available to them, and to clean up toxicity overall for healthy living.
cheers!
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Re: The Feds concede vaccine-autism case in court
Tue, April 8, 2008 - 5:44 AMinteresting. i have read that the rise in incidents of autism (i've actually read that we are in the midst of an autism "epidemic") parallels the rise in use of pitocin to induce labor. i wonder if there is thimersol present in the pitocin or if vaccines and pitocin might just be coincidental factors in the rise in autism. or perhaps there is yet another unknown factor or factors. -
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Re: The Feds concede vaccine-autism case in court
Tue, April 8, 2008 - 7:51 AMwhere have you read the pitcoin link?
also, the "rise"in autism may be slightly misleading, as more kids have been "diagnosed" so there are more numbers...but the quality of testing and testing practice over the years have also changed---meaning more children are being tested, so more will be diagnosed. There may have always been children with autisim, just never the number count before like we have now. -
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Re: The Feds concede vaccine-autism case in court
Tue, April 8, 2008 - 11:23 AMi forget where i read it first but google "autism and pitocin" and you will find a TON of solid results. it's a sadly easy google! wish it was more of a search for the info in a way, cuz it's kind of appalling how frequently women are induced for being somebody's opinion of "overdue" with a drug that should perhaps be taken very, very seriously.
if there is one thing that has not been the trend in child psychology in the past three decades (at least) it's *underdiagnosing.* it's almost as though they can't wait to slap labels on kids -- and medicate them if possible. autism is not one that's terribly easier to miss, either (unless you count aspergers, which is commonly overlooked into adulthood).
no, sadly, the literature seems to suggest that this is not about more accurate diagnosing -- it's about a huge increase in the actual incidents of autism.
i'm no expert -- just another mom reading the literature as it comes out, like all of us. but as i understand it, the question isn't so much if this increase is happening as why it is happening.
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Re: The Feds concede vaccine-autism case in court
Tue, April 8, 2008 - 3:48 PMof course to my mind, a family having five children with the same ailment points to genetics -- my partner, like his sister, were both born with congenital kidney defects. but a family with five children having the same disorder could possibly point to the same mistake being made in five cases on top of a genetically predisposed sensitivity. meaning, for every thousand children with the genetics to survive imunization or pitocin (or whatever) more or less in tact, there may be X number who can not handle exposure to these chemicals. so there may be children who are just going to be autistic, no matter what chemicals they are exposed to. there may be children who will only develop autism if a genetic weakness is "outed" by exposure to something that triggers autism. there may, for all we know, be such a thing as people who have no genetic predisposition at all, but react to exposure to certain chemicals only if those chemicals are part of a bad batch. or if they are administerd on exactly the 23rd day of life. or... who knows???
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Re: The Feds concede vaccine-autism case in court
Tue, April 8, 2008 - 12:16 PMI am not sure where the original sources came from but I definitely remember this link being mentioned in the "Business of Being Born" It was the first time I had heard of it.
Personally I think there has to be some genetic link as well. In my school there is one family with three autistic boys and another family with two autistic boys. Coincidence?
One could argue that environment may have played a role but what about Donor X? These children lived nowhere near each other.
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Re: The Feds concede vaccine-autism case in court
Tue, April 8, 2008 - 1:04 PMGiven most everything I have read, a genetics would be a factor of it for sure. In fact, several years ago while studying genetics and messing with a fruit flies lab, my interest was sparked by coming across an article about a family who had 5 autistic children, but only one with Asperger's. I still remember what the daughter with Asperger's actually looked like...memory is strange that way :)
(I am not a scientist by job, btw - majored in biochem, was premed, and consequently studied genetics quite a bit in college ;) Afterwards I decided to be an artist by trade...and, so like you guys, I just read, read, read everything I can about subjects of interest! But science and genetics will always steal my heart ;)
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